Change in plug-in grant

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Change in plug-in grant

Postby Scally » Thu Oct 11, 2018 11:30 pm

I had to write to my MP today, because I'm confused.

"My wife has recently put down a deposit for a plug in 100% electric Hyundai Kona, with a delivery date of 18th March 2019, to replace her aging diesel Nissan Note. This will finally make us a two car 100% electric mobility family. The new Kona will join our deep loft insulation, low-energy lightbulbs, solar panels, electric lawnmower and even our small folding electric sailing dinghy in helping us become a lower-carbon household.

(some people might say we are lucky to own a boat at all, but it is 18 years old and was bought second hand for £550, so I reckon that is a good example of thrift, not extravagance !)

Anyway, my question is this: will today's change in the electric car grant affect us, or will existing orders be honoured?

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By the way, my wife tried to use the park and ride at Croy today, but there were no spaces left in the car park so she had to drive to Edinburgh and back for her business meeting: I totally endorse the urgent need to extend car parking at Croy station."
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Re: Change in plug-in grant

Postby IanM » Fri Oct 12, 2018 10:53 am

I assume the manufacturers knew this was coming thus the discontinuation of the BMW Rex and the recent difficulties in ordering a hybrid car.

Now we will see a reduction in EV's of £1000, perhaps? They went up when the grant was introduced so fair is fair.

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Re: Change in plug-in grant

Postby Scally » Sat Oct 13, 2018 11:55 pm

I think the answer to my query is already online here: It looks as if the transition will be OK as long as you get in quick.
Broadly speaking though, I think this is a bad move: EVs are still very expensive and manufactured in small numbers, and we need a mixture of sticks and carrots to encourage the transition to take -off point.
I would tax diesel and petrol and use the money to subsidise electric, if on public health grounds alone: many thousands of people people are dying and suffering from a wide range of physical and neurological complications caused by exposure to particulate emissions, and the climate is in meltdown. ... idance.pdf
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Re: Change in plug-in grant

Postby Chunkybuns » Wed Oct 17, 2018 10:17 am

So based on the link you posted I'll still get my £4500 grant for the Kona I ordered last month. That was a close call. How do we check that Hyundai have applied for the grant before November?

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Re: Change in plug-in grant

Postby noahs-dad » Wed Oct 17, 2018 2:24 pm

Not sure what cars are in what category? I'd have a bit of sympathy for BMW if their i3 Rex was cut completely from grant eligibility and grouped with the GTE golfs, Outlander and the like.

It hasn't really worked to well anyway has it? I couldn't help but feel a bit cynical about the old £5k grant and that it was just a case of putting the right numbers of the paperwork, but the numbers could be manipulated elsewhere. Was a bit to easy for the grant to be shared so that you got a £2500 discount and the car dealer was getting a £2500 bonus on the sale.

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Re: Change in plug-in grant

Postby Neil » Sun Oct 21, 2018 9:52 pm

Following the AEC 2018 event in Brussels, I have to say that any reduction in the PiCG is a serious mistake. Other countries are changing their subsidy systems too, with some countries offering significantly higher sums. Of particular note were the offers of enhanced subsidies for those scrapping cars over a certain age. This is something we will be highlighting to OLEV and Transport Scotland.
Across Europe there is a general feeling that removing subsidies on PHEVs is a desirable option, provided that funding is redirected to ZEV vehicles, whether BEV or FCEV. Possibly redirecting it to infrastructure would be even better, but for the UK this is a cut, not a re-allocation. It is a backwards and shameful step by the Westminster Government.
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